Airbnb has changed the way people live and travel. And yet, CEO and co-founder Brian Chesky is a highly unusual figure in Silicon Valley. He is a designer turned entrepreneur running a billion-dollar company. Business journalist Katrina Brooker has spent years covering Brian Chesky and his secret sauce. Katrina talks to hosts Samuel Donner and John Frye about Chesky’s “nice guy” persona, his connection to Walt Disney, and the challenges that lie ahead for his company.  Listen ad free with Wondery+. Join Wondery+ for exclusives, binges, early access, and ad free listening. Available in the Wondery App https://wondery.app.link/secretsauce. Support us by supporting our sponsors! NetSuite - Schedule your FREE product tour at netsuite.com/sauce. Fiverr - Right now, you can sign up for Fiverr Business and get a whole year FREE at fiverr.com/business when you use promo code SAUCE. Mack Weldon - For 20% off your first order, go to mackweldon.com/sauce and use promo code SAUCE.