From creating one of the Python’s most influential libraries to co-founding Voltron Data, Wes joins the show to chat about why the book cover of the pandas book doesn’t feature a panda, open source pitfalls to avoid, the pros and cons of hiring engineers at a non-profit, and more.   Segments: (00:02:50) Guang’s complaint about the pandas book cover (00:04:38) Quarto and Open Access Publishing (00:12:00) Convincing Wall Street to Open Source (00:15:31) Publishing the first python package over Christmas  (00:18:01) Doubling Down on Building pandas (00:23:23) Personal sacrifices for the sake of impact (00:26:28) The Evolution of Open-Source (00:29:19) “Open source development started out as a very privileged activity” (00:32:40) The Consulting Trap (00:35:17) The Startup Trap (00:39:29) The Corporate User Trap (00:44:21) Avoiding the Startup Trap (00:46:54) Non-Profit vs. For-Profit (00:48:09) The Challenges of Hiring Engineers in a Non-Profit Setting (00:50:08) The Benefits of Remote Work for Open Source Development (00:52:15) Balancing Open Source and Enterprise Interests (00:57:25) New Funding Models for Open Source? (01:00:01) Getting into VC (01:06:19) The Future of Composable Data Systems   Show Notes: - online edition of pandas book: https://wesmckinney.com/book/ - the new digital publishing tool that Wes recommends: https://quarto.org/   Stay in touch: 👋 Make Ronak’s day by leaving us a review and let us know who we should talk to next! [email protected]   Music: Vlad Gluschenko — Forest License: Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.en