Hello, and welcome to Survivor Brothers, the ultimate unofficial podcast from your friends at TV Guide. In this episode, bros Fox Van Allen and Lance Cartelli hit the work-from-home studios one more time to break down "It All Boils Down To This," (S40E14), the stunning season finale of Survivor: Winners at War. Join them as they discuss all the incredible moves that make Tony Vlachos the greatest of all time, and the repeated mistakes that cost Natalie Anderson the win. Plus, did Michele Fitzgerald get cheated out of a deserved second-place finish? The bros also discuss the epic final four fire making challenge between Tony and Sarah Lacina (or just Lacina for short), the respectable real-world reason why Ben Driebergen gave up his game at final five, and whether 16-year-olds have any place competing on the next season of Survivor. Thanks for listening! Those of us here at Survivor Brothers truly appreciate your support all season long. If you want even more Survivor 40 coverage -- and plenty of coverage of Survivor 41 when it happens -- please subscribe to Survivor Brothers on your favorite podcasting app. And if you really like what you hear, leave the bros a review! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices