Ted chats with Matt Nava about Giant Squid's work on ABZÛ and The Pathless, what led him to the VFX industry and his first big break, the difficulties of taking too much on when starting your own studio, establishing a studio culture and dealing with conflict, what being indie means now vs a decade ago, and how to emphasize elegant design in a game experience. Nava is the Founder and Creative Director of Giant Squid. He also previously worked as the Art Director on thatgamecompany's Flower and Journey.