What is up everyone?  Got a new episode here for the "We Were In a Cult?" series here on the Clemenz With a "Z" podcast.  I was able to have a conversation with former member of the ICOC, Drew to discuss his life before the church, during, and after.  The biggest take away of his story for me was how important it is for some to find a "stable" institution and the joy it brings them.  That institution also has a damaging power once it is that institution drops them or turns it back on them.     If you are a member, were a member, or know someone who was a member of the ICOC or the ICC and would like to share your story of your life in and out of the church and help us maybe get closer to answering the question "we were in a cult?", and maybe find some healing please contact me via email at [email protected] or you can DM via Instagram at the "Clemenz With a "Z" podcast" Instagram page.  As always, thank you for your continued support and if you like what you hear please rate and review!  If you don't remember, I'm just a channel, I ain't the source.