Chris opens up and shares with John his experience of burnout in ministry and what he did to help him thrive in ministry. These tools can help each of us to thrive in ministry and avoid the danger of burn-out. To watch the webinar he did on this topic for the National Federation for Catholic Youth Ministry, click here (https://www.gotostage.com/channel/3137548062961020934). Chris also mentions the Monk Manual (https://www.monkmanual.com/) as a powerful tool for him. You can find out more here (https://www.monkmanual.com/). Here are the links to the books John mentioned that are challenging him to learn and grow in his ministry:   Developing the Leader Within You 2.0 Leader Shift Into His Likeness: Be Transformed As a Disciple of Christ