In this episode I speak with David Shillington. Dave played Rugby League in the amazing Queensland era alongside the likes of Greg Inglis, Cameron Smith, Billy Slater and Jonathan Thurston to name a few and was coached by Mal Meninga one of Queensland’s greats. He also had a distinguished NRL career with the Sydney Roosters, Canberra Raiders and Gold Coast Titans. Dave discusses the anxiety he dealt with as an up and coming player in the NRL and some of the coaches who led him on his path to being an Australian Representative. In retirement Shillo is now working in Mental Health and has set up his own business called Prime Effect and one of Shillo’s goals off the field is shifting the paradigm of mental health to being something all members of society can openly discuss and improve through programs such as what he is now doing with Prime effect. Some of the key take aways for me in this episode were: 1) Turning your weaknesses into your strengths. 2) The importance of being able to talk to other people. 3) Developing the idea of mental fitness. 4) Promoting mental health first aid. Website: https://www.primeeffect.com.au/ LinkedIn: @David Shillington