This is a far ranging interview with Steve Kirsch, the founder of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund. The interview covers, inter alia, early outpatient treatment, vaccination, governmental responses to the pandemic, the role of tech companies and freedom of expression. Steve Kirsch is a serial entrepreneur, the inventor of the optical mouse and a philanthropist. There are also remarks by 2 medical doctors who practice early outpatient treatment and 2 participants in the ClubHouse session, which were recorded with permission.