Many well-intended efforts to make schools more equitable often fail because we're trying to make them work inside a system that's a terrible fit for them. What's been missing is a whole-school approach that creates a path forward that is radically different from what we've done before. In this episode, I talk with the authors of the book Street Data—Shane Safir and Jamila Dugan—about their ground-up approach to school transformation, one that lets go of the fixation on text scores and centers marginalized voices instead. ------------------- Thanks to CommonLit and ISTE for sponsoring this episode. ------------------- Find Shane and Jamila online at shanesafir.com and jamiladugan.com.