The hardships caused by the COVID-19 shutdown are not evenly distributed. In the US, 40% of the workforce who earn just $40,000 a year, have lost their jobs. Australians in a similar position will also face harsher conditions than higher earners. But it goes beyond employment into poverty-specific issues like homelessness and neglect. Stefanie Schurer explains why most of the suffering will land on the shoulders of children. Professor Schurer is at Sydney University. She is chief investigator at the NHMRC of Research Excellence of both Child and Indigenous Youth Well-being. Also How does the Australian Bureau of Statistics gather data in the fast-moving times of the coronavirus? David Gruen, lead statistician of the ABS and former chief economist to the prime minister, joins us.