When a baby is in a breech (head up) position for labour and birth, women are faced with unique challenges of care provider incompetence and fear. Many clinicians don’t know how to or refuse to attend vaginal breech births. They cite increased risk and danger, but is this correct? Is it more dangerous to give birth to your breech baby vaginally or by caesarean section? Dr Rixa Freeze, president of Breech without Borders talks us through the research and we discuss the concept of never being able to eliminate risk, we just move it upstream. It’s up to women to decide which risks they are willing to accept, and it’s up to care providers to be skilled enough to be able to care for women according to the womans' preference.  This is the second breech episode for the Great birth Rebellion, the first was with Dr Andrew Bissits (episode 26).  Find out more about breech without borders and do their courses: breechwithoutborders.org FB: https://www.facebook.com/breechwithoutborders IG: https://www.instagram.com/breechwithoutborders/ Online courses: https://breech.thinkific.com/ Training schedule: https://www.breechwithoutborders.org/schedule/ 2nd edition of our book, A Guide to Physiological Breech Birth: https://www.breechwithoutborders.org/p/guide2/  Get more from the Great Birth Rebellion Podcast Join the podcast mailing list to access the resource folder from each episode at www.melaniethemidwife.com  Join the rebellion and show your support! Grab your Great Birth Rebellion merchandise now at www.thegreatbirthrebellion.com Join the premium podcast members Hub which gives you access to transcripts, additional resources AND the 'ask Mel a question' button so you can submit questions for Mel to answer in the hub. Only available in the premium podcast members hub. Join the hub here  Follow us on social media @thegreatbirthrebellion and @melaniethemidwife  If this podcast has improved your knowledge or pregnancy, birth or postpartum journey please consider thanking us financially by leaving a tip to support the ongoing work of this podcast.  Disclaimer The information and resources provided on this podcast does not, and is not intended to, constitute or replace medical or midwifery advice. Instead, all information provided is intended for education, with it’s application intended for discussion between yourself and your care provider and/or workplace if you are a health professional. The Great Birth Rebellion podcast reserves the right to supplement, edit, change, delete any information at any time. Whilst we have tried to maintain accuracy and completeness of information, we do not warrant or guarantee the accuracy or currency of the information. The podcast accepts no liability for any loss, damage or unfavourable outcomes howsoever arising out of the use or reliance on the content. This podcast is not a replacement for midwifery or medical clinical care.