What are mortification and vivification? What role do they play in our Christian lives? How can we encourage men in the church to grow, in a cultural environment which in various ways undermines attempts to pursue godliness? These are questions about which the subject of this month's interview has thought deeply. Joe Barnard is Lead Pastor at Holyrood Evangelical Church in Edinburgh, and it was our great pleasure to sit down with him earlier this year to talk life, ministry, and books. We trust you'll be encouraged as you listen in.    Books and Authors Mentioned: Barnard, Joe, The Way Forward: A Roadmap of Spiritual Growth for Men in the 21st Century https://www.christianfocus.com/products/2863/the-way-forward Barnard, Joe, Surviving the Trenches: Killing Sin Before it Kills You https://www.christianfocus.com/products/3032/surviving-the-trenches Barnard, Joe, Hymn Workouts: 100 Exercises to Set Your Heart Ablaze https://www.christianfocus.com/products/3056/hymn-workouts Chalmers, Thomas, The Letters of Thomas Chalmers https://banneroftruth.org/uk/store/letters/letters-of-thomas-chalmers/ Owen, John, Spiritual-Mindedness (available in Puritan Paperback or unabridged in Volume 7 of Owen's Works) https://banneroftruth.org/uk/store/christian-living/spiritual-mindedness/ https://banneroftruth.org/uk/store/owen-books/the-works-of-john-owen-7/ Ryle, J. C., Practical Religion: Being Plain Papers on the Duties, Experience, Dangers, and Privileges of Professing Christians https://banneroftruth.org/uk/store/christian-living/practical-religion-2/   Helpful Links: Holyrood Evangelical Church - https://holyroodevangelical.org/ Cross Training Ministries - www.xtrainingministries.com   Watch the interview on Youtube: https://youtu.be/wLuSaRRBtVY   Explore the work of the Banner: www.banneroftruth.org Subscribe to the magazine (print/digital/both): www.banneroftruth.org/magazine Leave us a voice message: www.speakpipe.com/magazinepodcast