I recently wrote an article reflecting on the fact that an awareness of the systems you exist within can empower you to make even savvier individual decisions for yourself. But sometimes, when you’re carving out a safe, secure, full life under capitalism, the thing that’s better for you makes things worse for others. So it leads me to this question: How do we have a good relationship with money in an uncertain world, and how do we stay true to our ethical code while taking care of ourselves and our futures? I wanted to invite two people I admire—feminist writer Caroline Burke and author, artist, and bookkeeper Paco de Leon—to talk about it more.  Transcripts, show notes, production credits, and more can be found at: https://moneywithkatie.com/cognitive-dissonance-wealth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices