In this episode, Vitalik Buterin sits down with Eric to discuss ethereum, the wider world of crypto and heterodox economics. Taking note of the new development of blockchain in 2010, Eric wrote an essay called “Go Virtual Young Man”. A few years later, a Thiel Fellow named Vitalik created a virtual machine with an idiosyncratic smart contract system and a currency. Ironically, Eric had recently become a Managing Director at Thiel Capital. Perennially circling each other intellectually, the two now sit down in person to discuss economic paradigm shifts, crypto and the future of online sovereignty and social coordination.  Wine Access: WineAccess.com/Portal to get $100 off your first purchase of $250 or more Chili Technology: chilitechnology.com/PORTAL Save up to $300 on Chili sleep systems with 25% off the chiliPAD (code: portalchili) or 15% off OOLER (code: portalooler) Phlur: phlur.com/portal to get 20% off your FIRST custom Phlur sample set! Blinkist: blinkist.com/portal try it FREE for 7 days AND save 25% off your new subscription.