This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Ted Harrington. Ted is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. Ted has been named both Executive of the Year by the American Business Awards and an SD Metro 40 Under 40 entrepreneur. Ted has been featured in more than 100 media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and Forbes. [June 20, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  00:56 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:32 – Ted Harrington Intro  03:21 – How did you start off in this industry?  06:15 – Explain it like I'm 12 years old  07:59 – The origins of ISE   09:32 – Is there a "perfect" Password Manager?  14:11 – How to communicate at the executive level  16:54 – The right and wrong ways of investing in security  25:17 – Responsible Disclosure  29:04 – The challenges of the Medical Device field  32:39 – The problem with legislation driving security   34:20 – The manufacturers’ role in safety and security   36:00 – Who is the book "Hackable" for?  38:05 – Find Ted online  Twitter: https://twitter.com/securityted  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/securityted  Website: https://www.tedharrington.com  38:37 – Book Recommendations  Retail Pride - Ron Thurston   Art of Resilience – Hussein Al-Baiaty   41:04 – Who is your biggest mentor?  Business Partner – Steve Bono  45:35 – Wrap Up   46:17 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org