Mike speaks with Dominique Hammonds on the need for broaching conversations in our work as counselors and educators, barriers to and reasons why we avoid these conversations, and how we can grow as culturally competent counselors. For more on Dominique, links from the conversation, and then APA citation for this episode visit www.thethoughtfulcounselor.com The Thoughtful Counselor is created in partnership with Palo Alto University’s division of Continuing & Professional Studies. Learn more at www.paloaltou.edu/concept.