In this episode I speak with Cecilia Macaulay, a permaculture designer from Australia. We discuss what permaculture means, her story, and how aspects of Bitcoin thinking have entered into her practice. We talk about the State as a predator in the ecosystem of humanity as well as the importance of cleaning up your house and building social capital and communities, especially when times get tough. ‍--- Connect with The Transformation of Value X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/TTOVpodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Nostr at: npub1uth29ygt090fe640skhc8l34d9s7xlwj4frxs2esezt7n6d64nwsqcmmmu Or send an email to [email protected] and I will get back to you! --- Support The Transformation of Value: Bitcoin tip address: bc1qlfcr2v73tntt6wvyp2yu064egvyeery6xtwy8t Lightning tip address: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ If you send a tip please email or DM me so I can thank you! --- Links: Cecilia's website - https://www.ceciliamacaulay.com.au/⁠ Cecilia's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cecilia_macaulay/