In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Jake Veasey, Director of Care for the Rare. In this wide-ranging conversation we talk about his company, Care for the Rare, the future of habitats for animals in human care, the interface between animal welfare and conservation as well as some insight into the future of welfare assessments. Enjoy! Resources: Website www.carefortherare.com Personal LinkedIn page https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakeveasey/ Company LinkedIn page www.linkedin.com/company/carefortherare Welfare audit paper https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/zoo.21677 Peak welfare paper https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/zoo.21390 Tiger AWPIS findings https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/10/9/1536