What happens when you feel like you've, "done all the right things" and things still go unexpectedly wrong? How do you move from hiding to honesty? What does humility have to do with any of this? In this honest conversation, Dr. Joel talks with Pastor Nick Connolly about his journey of "triaging his soul" and the healing process. Pastor Nick and his wife Jess Connolly are founding pastors of Bright City Church in Charleston, NC. We go deep into pastor Nick's new book, "Don't Give Up, Just Yet: Choosing Persistence In a World of Overwhelming Resistance." Order your copy to begin the process of your "soul triage" We also talk about Humility which surrounds every part of Nick's story. You can pre-order Dr. Joel's book, "The Hidden Peace: Finding True Security, Strength, and Confidence through Humility" - When you pre-order you will get the following: - The first three chapters of "The Hidden Peace" right away - A PDF Download unpacking the origin story of Satan and what it teaches us about pride