This week, Phill is joined by his classmate, Sarah Pearson, who works fighting clergy abuse. She and Phill discuss how high up the chain coverup efforts go, how predatory priests are often relocated into communities of color, and what justice for victims may look like. For a transcript of this show, please visit crooked.com/unholierthanthou. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices