Tony and Kate Anthony, divorce coach and author of “The D Word: Making the Ultimate Decision About Your Marriage,” (https://amzn.to/47V1AKe (https://amzn.to/47V1AKe)) unpack the complex dynamics involved with the decision to stay or leave a relationship, typically with an emotionally immature or narcissistic partner. Kate shares her divorce story and explores the importance of establishing personal boundaries and self-care throughout the journey. The conversation discusses the fundamental need for individuals to recognize and reclaim their right to happiness outside a dysfunctional marital relationship. They also talk about the impact of staying in an emotionally abusive relationship for the sake of the kids and the different roles that a therapist and coach can play in the helping process. You can find out more about Kate at her website http://kateanthony.com (http://kateanthony.com) and if you are looking for safe ways to purchase the book, please visit http://kateanthony.com/dword (http://kateanthony.com/dword)00:01 Introduction and Initial Banter00:14 Discussing Kate's Book and Its Impact01:08 Kate's Journey and Her Book's Purpose01:46 The Role of Narcissism in Relationships02:36 Kate's Personal Experience with Narcissism03:16 The Impact of Divorce and Making the Decision05:22 The Aftermath of Leaving a Narcissistic Relationship06:31 The Role of Codependency in Relationships13:18 Kate's Career in Acting and Its Influence16:21 The Importance of Choosing Yourself22:33 The Process of Knowing When to Leave24:05 The Power of Self-Acknowledgement24:23 Understanding the Impact of Denial24:39 The Importance of Self-Admission25:12 The Struggle of Facing the Truth25:29 The Role of Therapists and Coaches25:50 The Concept of Leading Indicators26:42 The Reality of Unhealthy Relationships27:09 The Process of Decision Making27:32 The Power of Self-Empowerment