The white rural working class is so often depicted in the mainstream media as just Trump supporters; but there’s a lot of layers to this community that go unseen. Jen comes from this world and she’s also a new member of my family (my sister-in-law’s sister). We talk about her experience as the first in her family to date a person of color, the isolation caused by grief, and her struggle at times to fit in with her community. You’ll witness the most in depth conversation she and I have ever had, where I discover some of our shared values despite our very different backgrounds.    “To have a good conversation, you have to open yourself up and be prepared to just listen to what somebody else has to say.” –Jen   Check out sites like GriefShare and others resources listed in this Love to Know article to find support.    Creator: Maria Fernanda Diez  Executive Producers: Gisselle Bances, Anna Stumpf, Nikki Ettore  Producer: Dylan Heuer   Associate Producer: Claudia Marticorena Original Theme Music: Tony Bruno See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.