In Part 2 of our conversation we talk life as an independent queer artist, pay-to-play, guitar shredder culture, the honorable business practices of Meatball & Precinct, short term losses leading to long term gains, Zee’s songwriting process, Ray Charles’ thoughts on Elvis Presley, our shared love of The Who, contextual cultural comprehension, the benefits - and struggles - of staying clean & sober, collaboration complications, hamster wheeling, TikTok, The Decline Of Western Civilization Part 2, accidental concept albums and more. https://www.instagram.com/zeemachine https://twitter.com/ZeeMachineMusic https://www.tiktok.com/@zeemachinemusic Check the refreshed benefit tiers and hott new lower prices at  https://www.patreon.com/CraigAndFriends  Be a Pal, a Friend, a Friend With Benefits or a Best Friend and receive early & uncut ad-free versions of these episodes, exclusive bonus episodes, Movie Club participation and much more!