This interview took us for a spin through a myriad of worlds - from the rambunctious and chaotic Commedia dell’Arte performances of Renaissance Italy through the clown-like persona of Donald Trump to UFO mythologies! All of it viewed through the lens of the carnivalesque. Our guest Petter Madegård is a visual artist, a director of film and theatre and an actor. He is the inventor of the Commedia dell’Arte-inspired live animation theatre Cinema dell’Arte. Enjoy this interview filled with the uncontained power of spring. Excerpts from Petter Madegård's Cinema dell'Arte projects https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ellxxrj-SY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzTMayjRNY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA_NXcAotU In the Borderlands  www.intheborderlands.com REFERENCES Commedia dell'arte https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commedia_dell%27arte Jerzy Grotowski https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Grotowski Rabelais and His World by Mikhail Bakhtin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabelais_and_His_World Monty Python https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python Mad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_(magazine) Rosetta Stone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone Noh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noh Pantalone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantalone The Merchant of Venice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Merchant_of_Venice Assassin's Creed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Vecchio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vecchio Harlequin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin Socker-Conny https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socker-Conny Hopi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopi Motion Capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_capture Avatar (film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_(2009_film) The Lord of the Rings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_the_Rings_(film_series) Andy Serkis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Serkis Freedom of Information Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_Information_Act_(United_States) J. Allen Hynek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Allen_Hynek John E. Mack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Mack Grey alien https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_alien Starseeds https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_people_(New_Age) Vodun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_African_Vodun David Icke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke Reptilians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_conspiracy_theory Elf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf Neocortex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neocortex