Manuel Pais is co-author of the book Team Topologies and Eduardo da Silva is a Team Topologies Valued Practitioner. Both are helping organizations improve their ways of working by applying Team Topologies principles. An important part of Team Topologies are Enabling teams. What are Enabling teams? What kind of people do you need in them? What is the ROI on Enabling teams? How do you start with Enabling teams in an organization? Find out in my conversation with Manuel and Eduardo and note that they’re offering a summer discount for all Team Topologies Academy courses. Subscribe to 0800-DEVOPS newsletter here. This interview is featured in 0800-DEVOPS #49 - Enabling teams with Manuel Pais and Eduardo da Silva. [Check out podcast chapters if available on your podcast platform or use links below] (0:01) Introduction   (1:05) What are Enabling teams?   (3:27) Increasing our chances of Enabling teams improving our organization   (12:08) Relationship between Enabling teams and the organization   (21:27) Understanding where the organization needs help   (29:24) ROI of Enabling teams (39:39) How to sell the idea of Enabling teams