Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jason Herbert to talk about Florida and Seminole history, the role of cattle in identity formation, and where the first cowpeople existed in the United States. Hint: It wasn’t in the Wild West! Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 4:42 - Florida: A Remarkable Place 5:43 - Cattle Ranching...A Product of FL? 7:33 - Explaining Seminole, Alachua and the First Cow People 12:48 - Cattle Origins in FL: The Charismatic Megafauna 21:09 - The First Cowboys in Florida  22:14 - Feral Cattle 22:33 - The Story of Cowkeeper and the Alachua Communities 25:41 - The Seminolization of Florida 26:57 - From Cow Hunting to Cow Ranching: The Impact of Cattle in Florida 38:38 - The Emergence of the Term 'Cracker' and its Significance in Florida 48:37 - Impacts on Native Peoples in Florida 51:55 - How Jason Came Across This Story 54:33 - Reflecting on the Seminole Wars 58:41 - Floridians as Cow People Even Today 1:06:13 - Exploring Florida's Cattle History: Key Locations 1:09:58 - Where You Can Find Jason EPISODE LINKS: Jason Herbert – https://jasonherbert.substack.com Historians at the Movies – https://www.historiansatthemovies.com Jason on X and Instagram - @HERBERTHISTORY Deseret Ranch, Florida - https://www.deseretranches.com Seminole tribe of Florida – https://www.semtribe.com Miccosukee tribe of Florida – https://miccosukee.com/miccosukee-tribe-history/ Moses Jumper, Jr. – https://seminoletribune.org/q-and-a-with-moses-bigg-shot-jumper-jr/ Dan Flores - https://projectcoyote.org/about/ambassadors/dan-flores/ Juan Ponce de Leon – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Ponce-de-Leon Creatures of Empire – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/creatures-of-empire-9780195304466?cc=us&lang=en& Andalusia, Spain – https://www.britannica.com/place/Andalusia-region-Spain Hernando de Soto – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hernando-de-Soto Creek – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creek-people The Creek War – https://www.britannica.com/event/Creek-War Panton, Leslie & Company – https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/panton-leslie-company/ William Bartram – https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/naturalists/bartram/ Patriot War – https://www.jaxhistory.org/patriot-war-1812/ Seminole Wars – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Seminole-Wars Florida Cracker Trading Company – https://www.floridacrackerstyle.com The Land Remembered – https://alandremembered.com Armed Occupation Act of 1842 – https://myfloridahistory.org/date-in-history/august-04-1842/armed-occupation-act Osceola – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Osceola-Seminole-leader Micanopy, Florida – https://micanopytown.com Paynes Prairie Preserve State Park – https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/paynes-prairie-preserve-state-park Big Cypress Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/big-cypress-reservation Everglades National Park – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm Brooksville, Florida – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm Lake Placid – https://www.lakeplacidfl.net Highlands County, Florida – https://www.highlandsfl.gov Brighton Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/brighton-reservation PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podca