Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Charles Fournier to discuss Ernest Hemingway, his constructed identity, and vernacular landscapes. Hemingway looked up to Theodore Roosevelt and a romanticized, masculine version of the West, but he put on an entirely different persona in Europe. Who was the genuine Hemingway? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:41 - Why Ernest Hemingway? 7:25 - Learning More About Hemingway. 10:40 - Defining Vernacular Landscapes and Hemingway in the West 18:59 - What I Expected is Not What I Got When I Met Hemingway  10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe 22:37 - The Tension Between Hemingway's Desire for Fame and Authenticity 32:21 - Persona vs Authenticity 37:44 - The Persistent Effect of His Persona and Is There Anyone Like Him Today? 43:01 - Writing Styles & The Mythos of the West 53:26 - Historical Sites in Wyoming 55:20 - Where You Can Find Charles EPISODE LINKS: Podcast: Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/those-who-cant-teach-anymore/id1646723683 Podcast: The Modern West - https://www.themodernwest.org Look Out For: New Podcast with Diego Javier Luis! Ernest Hemingway - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ernest-Hemingway Hills Like White Elephants - https://jerrywbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Hills-Like-White-Elephants-Hemingway-Ernest.pdf Big Two-Hearted River - https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/inourtime/section14/ A Moveable Feast – https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-moveable-feast-ernest-hemingway/1100213865 Langston Hughes – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Langston-Hughes Hemingway and the Black Renaissance – https://ohiostatepress.org/books/titles/9780814211779.html Gertrude Stein - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gertrude-Stein Ezra Pound - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ezra-Pound James Joyce - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Joyce F. Scott Fitzgerald - https://www.britannica.com/biography/F-Scott-Fitzgerald Vernacular Landscapes - https://www.tclf.org/vernacular-landscapes Owen Wister - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Owen-Wister Edward Abbey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Abbey Zane Grey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Zane-Grey Old Man and the Sea - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Old-Man-and-the-Sea-novel-by-Hemingway Hemingway’s plane crashes - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hemingway-and-his-wife-survived-two-plane-crashes-just-one-day-apart-180982884/ Hemingway and World War I - https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2006/spring/hemingway.html Hunter S. Thompson - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hunter-S-Thompson Hemingway with fish - https://www.anglersjournal.com/saltwater/fighting-big-fish-with-ernest-hemingway The Sun Also Rises - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Sun-Also-Rises Karen Russell - https://karenrussellauthor.com Finnegans Wake - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Finnegans-Wake Paul Cezanne - https://www.paulcezanne.org Cheyenne Frontier Days - https://cfdrodeo.com Empire, Wyoming - https://www.nps.gov/places/empire-wyoming.htm PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices