We stand on the brink of a transformational revolution that will fundamentally alter the way we live, work, and relate to one another. In its scale, scope, and complexity, the transformation will be unlike anything we have experienced before as South Africa. We do not yet know just how BBBEE and Radical Economic Transformation will unfold, but one thing is clear: the response to it must be integrated and comprehensive, involving all stakeholders of the global polity, from the public and private sectors to academia and civil society. Teboho Mafodi is joined by the legendary businessman and transformation specialist Vuyo Jack to talk about the 4th Industrial Revolution's transformation in empowerment.