"We live today in the falling apart of what I would call consumer democracy." In this episode, New Citizenship Project co-founder and Citizens author Jon Alexander talks with our CEO Lisa Witter about the need to switch from a consumer story to citizens story in politics. He gives examples of what citizen-led governance looks like around the world and calls on politicians to work on trusting people. Since recording this podcast, we've hired Jon as a consultant on our Democratic Innovation work. Jon's book recommendations: Together by Ece Temelkuran, Emergent Strategy by Adrienne Marie Brown, and Citizen's Britain by Paddy Ashdown Reach us on Twitter (@apoliticalfound), LinkedIn (Apolitical Foundation), Instagram (@apoliticalfoundation) and Facebook (@apoliticalfoundation) or email via [email protected]. Sign up to our weekly briefing for inspiration to help you build better politics: bit.ly/3NlIWSt