Julian Liniger CEO and co-founder of Relai. Relai is an app developed in Switzerland that allows you to buy bitcoin without entering your personal data. We discuss what Relai is, their genesis, their current growth, their client makeup and more. We also delve into what it's really like creating a crypto startup in Switzerland and dealing with traditional banks. Listen to the podcast here Timestamps: 01:35 What is Relai, who is it for? 03:11 The genesis of Relai 13:21 KYC-less, and Mica and regulation 19:29 Input from Alexis Roussel, co-founder of Bity 24:22 What it is like dealing with swiss banks as a crypto start-up 29:20 Clients and client profiles 31:46 Reasons for current growth 41:01 Rapid fire questions referral link Hey! Buying bitcoin with Relai takes 1 minute and if you use my code REL161482 your fees will be reduced by 0.5%! 😎 Download the app here https://relai.me/download Become a subscriber and help support this podcast with fiat currency, credit card or Apple Pay https://www.buzzsprout.com/2058047/supporters/new show your support by sending sats- the cool way! insert this into a Lightning wallet [email protected] theswissroadtocryptogetalby.com subscribe to newsletter https://didierborel.substack.com/subscribe? visit website https://www.theswissroadtocrypto.com/ recommend on Twitter @SwissRoadCrypto If you want to contribute to the podcast, you can listen to the episode in a lightning enabled podcast player and stream sats or send as a 1 off. Download the Fountain app and donate sats or look up the Breez app,