In our conversation with the wonderful Jennifer Hicks we delve into how she centres herself with music, sustainable self-care practices and learning to live in the AND. Jennifer's Links Website: https://joyfulnoisesllc.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joyfulnoisesllc Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joyfulnoisesllc/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joyfulnoisesllc/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@joyfulnoisesllc Show Notes: "Patricia Allen (1992) introduced the term clinification in the art therapy literature to describe the transition that happens when we focus more on our clinical creative arts skills and neglect our own relationship with those creative arts. Iliya (2014) and Kunimura (2016) beautifully describe this as the “shift from being a creative arts therapist to a therapist who uses creative arts with clients.” This can happen when we only make or listen to music at or for work. And, this can lead to burnout. It can not only negatively impact our own relationship with music but can also negatively impact the ways that we are able to engage and communicate with the clients in the music (Iliya, 2014)." Allen, P. B. (1992). Artist-in-residence: An alternative to “clinification” for art therapists. Art Therapy, 9(1), 22-29. Iliya, Y. (2014). The purpose and importance of personal creativity for creative arts therapists: A brief literature review. Journal of Applied Arts and Health, 5(1), 109-115. Kunimura, A. (2016). Resilience over burnout: A self-care guide for music therapists [eBook edition]. Ami Kunimura. https://www.selfcareinstitute.com/ebook-music-therapists/  -- Subscribe to the Able Voice Podcast, leave us a review and connect with us (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@ablevoicepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @synergymusictherapy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) to share your experiences and takeaways. We release new episodes every other Sunday between the end of January and end of August. AVP Theme Music by: Christopher Mouchette. Follow him on⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Soundcloud (Chris Mouchette)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Episode edited by: Justis Krar (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@immvproductions⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) Rate and review the podcast on Apple Podcasts here:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/able-voice-podcast/id1505215850⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠