Sabra Horne joined me on the Acquisition Talk podcast to discussed her new book: Creating Innovation Navigators: Achieving Mission Through Innovation. She is an executive in residence at BMNT, and before that she held a number of important roles including Innovation Hub Chief at DHS's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, Deputy for Information Sharing and Collaboration at the National Security Agency, and an advisor to the Chief of Staff for the Director of National Intelligence. 1:20 - characterizing the 300 federal innovation efforts 3:40 - streamlining clearance and suitability processes 6:30 - how to select metrics and evaluate performance 10:00 - when mission calls, people deliver 13:30 - using commercial solutions openings  17:00 - leadership and the DHS procurement innovation lab 22:00 - partnering with general counsel to adopt authorities 23:50 - BMNT's innovation navigator's course 27:00 - how to get to 'yes' with the frozen middle and stakeholders 31:10 - we need 20 Hondo Geurts and 20 Mike Browns 32:30 - it took 30 years for government to organize around cyber 37:00 - the innovation pipeline 39:30 - requirements and budgeting misaligned with human-centered design 45:00 - engaging with industry 50:00 - investment readiness levels, adoption readiness levels This podcast was produced by Eric Lofgren. You can follow me on Twitter @AcqTalk and find more information at https://AcquisitionTalk.com