Former Nigerian President, OLUSEGUN OBASANJO, in an exclusive interview, tells us why Western-style democracy doesn't work for Africa and suggests a traditional system of consensus instead. Political economist, MOELETSI MBEKI, explains why the ANC is facing a drubbing in South Africa's next elections; he pays tribute to OBASANJO, the elder statesman, and tells us he doesn't argue with big brother, THABO MBEKI. Plus, How the fate of the humble mule reached the in-trays of Africa's leaders; they've now banned the slaughter of donkeys for their skins. We discover ejiao - a Chinese beauty treatment. www.africahereandnow.com Youtube.com/@AfricaHereandNowPodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.