How can you land big-name clients like Zendesk, Quora, Wordpress, and Shutterstock? And how can you shift to a better-paying structure as a consultant? Eli Schwartz reveals how coining the term "product-led" SEO and writing a book about it opened doors he never thought possible, why it's a mistake to charge by the hour instead of by the product, and why SEOs should be charging more than $100 per hour. He also discusses his 2024 predictions for Google SGE, ChatGPT as a search engine, and whether guest posts will pass any value in the eyes of Google. In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Introduction and Eli's background (02:15) Going Solo and Creating Product-Led SEO (18:16) Holistic SEO vs Product-Led SEO vs Programmatic SEO (24:42) Accepting Clients and Creating SEO Strategies (35:27) How Long Should Client Engagements Be? (39:39) Outbound Marketing and Client Acquisition (44:44) The Unexpected Success of Writing a Book (48:34) The Potential Impact of Google's SGE (56:39) Will ChatGPT Launch a Search Engne? (58:48) Will Google Announce That Guest Posts Pass No Value? (01:06:29) Does SEO Ever Change? (01:13:46) Company Size and Marketing Attribution Where to find Eli: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwartze X: https://x.com/5le Newsletter: https://productledseo.substack.com/ Website: https://www.elischwartz.co/ Where to find Tim: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timsoulo/ X: https://x.com/timsoulo Website: https://www.timsoulo.com/