In this conversation, Jeremy and Jim explore the differences between human and AI agency, focusing on the emerging technology of Swarm. They discuss how Swarm allows for the automation of processes without human intervention, connecting disparate systems and enabling businesses to operate more efficiently. The discussion highlights the potential of agentic AI to transform small businesses by automating tasks, improving data integration, and enhancing decision-making processes. Practical applications and future implications of this technology are also examined, emphasizing the need for business owners to adapt and prepare for the AI revolution.