In this episode, Phil and Roy welcome Savannah and Ollie to the show! We hear about each of their backgrounds in herpetoculture, before diving into their shared passion for lizards of the genus Abronia. We cover a lot of ground in this one - from the controversy surrounding the origins of the genus in captivity, to the specifics of their husbandry, breeding, and natural history! If you're interested in learning more about Abronia, this is a great starting point! Please like, subscribe, and share this episode, if you feel so inclined. To offer direct support to the show with a tip or donation, consider subscribing to our Patreon (https://patreon.com/projectherpetoculture) and have a look at our generous sponsors at the affiliate links below! SHOW NOTES: https://www.animalsathomenetwork.com/81-all-things-abronia/ LINKS FROM THE EPISODE: Follow Savannah on IG: @perfect.hue.llc Follow Ollie on IG: @wholesome_herps Merch: https://www.projectherp.com/shop Our Sponsors: CHECK OUT Custom Reptile Habitats CLICK HERE Cold Blooded Caffeine (apply the code ‘projectherp’ for 10% off): https://coldbloodedcaffeine.com/?ref=PH FairyTail Dragons: https://fairytaildragons.com Exo Terra: https://exo-terra.com Tamura Designs (apply the code ‘Herpetoculture’ for 15% off): https://tamura-designs.com Happy Dragons: https://plus.happydragons.com/home Support, Subscribe  & Follow: Support us on Patreon: patreon.com/projectherpetoculture Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@projectherpetoculture4860 Follow P : H on Instagram: @projectherpetoculture Follow Phil on Instagram: @aridsonly Follow Roy on Instagram: @wellspringherp