Caroline Baum in conversation with Paul Pholeros, architect and co-director of Healthabitat - an organisation that has worked for over 25 years to improve housing, the living environment and health of indigenous people in many suburban, rural and remote areas of Australia. Recorded at Sherman Contemporary Art Foundation (SCAF), 5 July 2012, in association with SCAF Project 14, Alfredo & Isabel Aquilizan, In Habit: Project Another Country.