While we are away, enjoy this reprise episode from 2019 in which Antoinette prepares herself for a white Thanksgiving while Shanti's only update is a new winter jacket. Together we share our love for Ryan Gosling and dive head-first into Shanti's recent disagreement with her mother about love. Provoked by the incident and inspired by Esther, we share our answers to Dr. Perel's questions about love beginning with "How did you learn to love"... Listen to Esther Perel's "Where Should We Begin?" here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/where-should-we-begin-with-esther-perel/id1237931798 Buy Mary J Blige here: https://music.apple.com/us/album/therapy/1440851006?i=1440851216 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.