Guest artist MELANIE JACKSON joins artist JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss her art practice via 'Corey Fah Does Social Mobility' by Isabel Waidner. Published in 2023 by Hamish Hamilton, part of Penguin Random House, the novel explores binaries, boundaries and borders, freeing us to imagine other ways of being within the context of award winning social mobility, cyclical history, and watching reality TV.  MELANIE and Jillian's discussion encompasses shame, humility, apology, gratitude, wormholes, reconfigured animations, cultural disruption, synthetic biology, persistent amnesia, complicated truths, brutalist architecture, unsustained caretaking, industrial metaphysics, winged penises, synthetic biology, false blaming, clashing ideologies, idealistic social housing, nano scale engineering, vulvas on horseback, ridiculing the middle class, colonialisation of language, pig fat in ice cream, what art can do as an experience, and the way histories and future technologies bounce off one another.          MELANIE JACKSON @melanie.jjj melaniejackson.net 'Rouge Flambé'    'Deeper in the Pyramid | Share of Throat' 'Spekyng Rybawdy' 'The Urpflanze' ARTISTS + CURATORS + ACADEMICS Esther Leslie Ezra Lloyd Jackson Kirsten Cooke Nicole Eisenman 'Bambi Gregor' 1993 Olukemi Lijadu Pelumi Odubanjo BOOKS + MAGAZINES + WRITERS Brian Massumi 'What Animals Teach Us About Politics' 2014 Charles Darwin 'On the Origin of the Species' 1859 Eileen Myles 'Afterglow: A Dog Memoir' 2017 Franz Kafka 'The Metamorphosis' 1915 'Frieze' magazine Goethe 'Die Urplanze' ('The Metamorphosis of Plants') 1829 Isabel Waidner ' Sterling Karat Gold' 2021 Jo Orton John Lahr 'Prick Up Your Ears' 1978 (film 2007) EXHIBITIONS + INSTITUTIONS Aspex Gallery, Portsmouth Banner Repeater, London Block 336, London 'Spekyng Rybawdy' 2022 Grand Union, Birmingham Matt's Gallery, London 'Mattflix' Max Mara Prize Jerwood Drawing Prize San Mei Gallery, London 'Rouge Flambè' 2023 Wellcome Collection, London 'Living with Buildings' 2018-2019 Wellcome Collection, London 'Milk' 2023 Whitechapel Gallery, London FILM + TELEVISION 'The Nasty Girl' 1990 'Top Boy' 2011-2023