In this episode, resident artist Arsalan Nasir shares his project, Collateral Damage, and explores the relationship between humans and non-humans using plants as game controllers in conflict situations. Joining in conversation are senior architect and researcher Arif Hasan, and lawyer and activist Abira Ashfaq on participatory governance, the destruction of Karachi’s last surviving river and indigenous communities of Malir, and forced evictions of farmers. This 9-part podcast series brings together the experiences of resident researchers and our guest speakers, including architects, designers, scholars, and activists from across the globe and Karachi to discuss novel interfaces for human and nonhuman interactions developed during the residency. Together, the podcast guests look back at the residents’ research and creative encounters through playful forms of participatory behaviors and engagement strategies. In each episode, residency curator Taqi Shaheen, along with artistic director Usman Haque and design advisor Ling Tan, discuss legal, cultural, social, and political frameworks for human and non-human interactions with the resident artists and guest speakers through the lens of innovative projects developed during the residency.  For more information visit residency.iobm.edu.pk