In this episode, Grant McHerron talks with Phil Guy, Managing Director of Alkath Group, and David Devine, General Manager of Mellori Solutions, about Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations, or EMSO. We get an overview of how the electromagnetic (EM) spectrum is used to transmit data for communication and navigations across multiple domains. We also get an insight into the possibility for the unification for the EM spectrum in the air, land, cyber, and space domains. The discussion provides an update on the ADF’s progress in adopting EMSO, the challenges that are being experienced in Ukraine, and the difficulties of simulating EMSO for training in the field.  We further explore the increased use of low cost EMSO devices such as drones and jammers before discussing the areas that the ADF needs to focus on to ensure they can conduct EMSO with effectively trained staff and effective systems to maintain dominance on the battlefield. LINKS: Navigating the Electromagnetic Storm: alkath.group/navigating-the-electromagnetic-storm-article-by-phil-guy Understanding the Dark Arts: www.australiandefence.com.au/defence/c4i-ew/understanding-the-dark-arts Alkath Group: alkath.group  Mellori Solutions: mellori.com.au ------------------ The ADM Podcast is produced by Southern Skies Media on behalf of Australian Defence Magazine, a Yaffa Media title (www.australiandefence.com.au). The views of the people appearing on this podcast do not necessarily represent the views of Australian Defence Magazine, the Department of Defence or the guests' employer. If you wish to use any of this podcast's audio, please contact Australian Defence Magazine via their website www.australiandefence.com.au or email them via [email protected] to get involved. ADM Podcasts are a blend of public interest journalism and sponsored content with a focus on the Defence community. Conversations with leaders and thinkers from a range of backgrounds including academia, Defence, industry, and associations. ADM Podcasts aims to educate, explain and explore some of the bigger issues around Defence. For sponsored content opportunities, please contact ADM Associate Publisher Kylie Leonard and/or National Sales Manager Michael Flanagan. Hosted by Grant McHerron Producer: Steve Visscher Australian Defence Magazine - © 2024