(aired 23/09/2023) - First up, we chat with Backchat Producer Libby Hopper about some of the NSW Budget highlights – and what the big winners and losers are for this round.   Next, we delve into public housing and social housing in NSW’s budget – a huge focus in this year’s budget with Rachel Evans from Action for Public Housing and Michelle May, Principal of Michelle May’s Buyer’s Agent. Victor Steffensen, lead fire practitioner, and co-founder of the Firesticks Alliance joins us to break down why we should look to the past to prevent future catastrophes when it comes to fire prevention strategies. This episode of Backchat was produced by Libby Hopper, Sana Shaikh, Jostina Basta and Eamonn Snow. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.