What is happening out there Bookshelvers!? As the dog world goes doolally on the socials we thought we'd bring you some doolally of our very own! This week we give (a long overdue) welcome to the awesome Debby Lucken, who shares her experiences in writing her book 'It Started With A Sit'. The discussion covers her journey in the dog training world, the challenges of balancing family life with work, and the importance of pets in family dynamics. Debby reflects on her personal stories, the creative process behind her book, and the significance of honest storytelling. The conversation also touches on the complexities of adoption assessments and the cultural differences in dog ownership. We get deep into the weeds discussing the emotional landscape of parenting, the importance of community support, and the role of professionals in navigating family dynamics. Debby is full of empathy and understanding in both parenting and dog training and a real advocate of safely involving children in dog training responsibilities. On top of all that quality dog chat Steve, Nat & Corrin navigate the complexities of the dog training industry, discussing the current turbulence and the importance of community support, explore various themes surrounding dog ownership, parenting, Fall down a Greg Wallace giggle hole, and, of course, discuss insights from the book and answer your questions. We hope you enjoy! Links: Buy "It Started With a Sit" DOGx Tickets Subscribe to receive a weekly PACT LUNCH