This week on Be Afraid, we offer you a bonus episode in the form of a full-length, unedited interview with Chad and Carey Hayes. The Hayeses are twin brothers who launched what is now known as The Conjuring Universe, which, at over $2 billion, is the highest-grossing horror franchise in history. Together, they wrote The Conjuring and The Conjuring 2, which has generated a series of sequels and prequels, including three Annabelle movies, The Nun and The Nun II, and a third Conjuring film.  More from Kutter Callaway on theology and culture: www.kuttercallaway.com More from Qoheleth: qohelethnoise.bandcamp.com “Be Afraid” is a production of Christianity Today, Fuller Seminary, and Uncommon Voices Collective Executive Producer: Erik Petrik Producer, Writer, and Editor: Kutter Callaway Producer, Editor, Graphic Design: Stephen Scheidler Producer: TJ Hester Music: Jeremy Hunt and Qoheleth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices