My conversation today contains conversation about the role religion can play in the dynamics of a relationship, especially when it comes to creating a family.  I have the distinct honour of introducing you to Mario and Monte and they may not be new to you. You may have seen them on their Instagram @marioandmonte. You may have seen them on the Ellen show (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-yoa7e7Qfo) in the Spring of 2021. You may also have seen them on the Hulu series, “We Live Here: The Midwest.” Today we speak about using a traditional surrogate in the form of a friend who has given them the greatest gift they could ever have asked for, their daughter.