In this special episode, Vitalik Buterin and Christopher Goes joined us live from the Intents Discussions conference during EthCC 2024! Key highlights from this campside chat include: Vitalik’s reflections on crypto’s journey thus far and his insights on Ethereum’s inception, unbundling blockchain components, and competing with centralized protocols. The interview concludes with thoughts on social consensus, and the importance of learning from past failures to better navigate future developments. Thanks for tuning in! -- Namada is the shielded asset hub rewarding you to protect the multichain. Enabling data protection for any existing asset, app, or chain, Namada introduces shielded cross-chain actions and rewards for shielding your assets, which strengthens data protection guarantees for everyone. Namada is currently in its mainnet launch phase — follow along on namada.net -- Kinto is the Safety-first L2 designed to accelerate the transition to an on-chain financial system. If you believe in this on-chain financial system, join Kinto's launch program (Engen) and become a founding member at engen.kinto.xyz -- Join us at Permissionless III. Use code BELL10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Follow Vitalik: https://x.com/VitalikButerin Follow Christopher Goes: https://x.com/cwgoes Follow Myles: https://x.com/MylesOneil Follow Mike: https://x.com/MikeIppolito_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH- - -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (5:22) Reflections on the Past 15 Years of Crypto (12:36) How Can We Compete Against Centralized Protocols? (19:08) Anoma Ad (20:07) Kinto Ad (21:01) Ethereum's Roadmap: What Comes Next? (38:33) The Role of Standards (49:47) Unbundling the Blockchain (56:12) Crypto's Successes and Failures (1:03:10) Questions From the Crowd -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.