In this episode, Mike and Myles opened with discussion on crypto’s meme culture, and Near’s recent marketing stunt. They then moved on to one of our industries hottest topics: the L1 value accrual debate. Is a rollup centric roadmap good, or bad, for Ethereum? How should we think about value capture? Additionally, they wondered, how valuable is interoperability? Finally, they closed by diving into community formation around decentralized networks. Thanks for tuning in! -- Namada is the shielded asset hub rewarding you to protect the multichain. Enabling data protection for any existing asset, app, or chain, Namada introduces shielded cross-chain actions and rewards for shielding your assets, which strengthens data protection guarantees for everyone. Namada is currently in its mainnet launch phase — follow along on namada.net -- Join us at Permissionless III. Use code BELL10 for a 10% discount: https://blockworks.co/event/permissionless-iii -- Follow Myles: https://x.com/MylesOneil Follow Mike: https://twitter.com/MikeIppolito_ Subscribe on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3R1D1D9 Subscribe on Apple: https://apple.co/3pQTfmD Subscribe on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3cpKZXH Get top market insights and the latest in crypto news. Subscribe to Blockworks Daily Newsletter: https://blockworks.co/newsletter/ -- Timestamps: (0:00) Introduction (2:20) Crypto's Meme Culture (7:34) Near's Marketing Stunt (11:43) The L1 Value Accrual Debate (20:13) Namada Ad (21:12) Is A Rollup Centric Roadmap Good For Ethereum? (39:05) Thinking About Value Capture (48:25) How Valuable Is Interoperability? (53:28) Building Communities (59:58) The Role of Infrastructure In Bootstrapping Community (1:09:41) Myles' Five Year Outlook -- Disclaimer: Nothing said on Bell Curve is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Mike, Jason, Michael, Vance and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.tt and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.