If you've been enjoying this season on frameworks so far, you're in for a real treat! Our guest today has been of great source of inspiration to me over the past few years since we connected on LinkedIn after co-habiting several spaces in feeds of mutual connections. Every time I see a post from Curtis Ogden, my heart swells and my mind expands. His massive generosity in sharing wisdom, expressing deep intention and practicing possibility is a blessing to witness, as you are able to experience in this episode. Curtis' life-long work is in developing capacity for social systems change, with a deep devotion to activation and enablement of networked systems combined with a love and application of energy systems. Curtis lives and works in the North-Eastern United States across a range of social change initiatives, with a tenured focus on food systems. In this conversation we explore four frameworks - one of which emerged for Curtis during an intermission between two co-joined elements of this single dialogue. Whilst we very much encourage you to engage with this episode as a whole, if you feel called to shift directly to the framework sections you will find them beginning at 33mins, 48mins, 63mins and 88mins. I whole-heartedly encourage you to follow or connect with Curtis on LinkedIn, so that like me you can receive the joy and grace of his shares (connection details below). Curtis as I hope you enjoy this conversation, and please do keep an eye on the Better World Leaders LinkedIn group, as well as Curtis and my feeds, for a co-authored article reflecting on this conversation which we'll be crafting over the coming months. Connect with me and Curtis and the BWL community via the links below, and explore Curtis' work to your heart's content! Curtis on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtis-ogden-5249034/ Tim on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timcollings/ Better World Leaders on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/74064716 Come along to the event Curtis mentioned, if you're able to be in the UK in October 2023 - https://www.hawkwoodcollege.co.uk/event/energy-systems-science-and-practice/ “Dimensions of Network Success” https://interactioninstitute.org/dimensions-of-network-success/ “Using the C-A-CA/P Framework … “ https://interactioninstitute.org/using-the-c-a-ca-p-framework-to-evaluate-a-policy-advocacy-network/ https://interactioninstitute.org/author/curtis/ “Energy System Science for Network Weavers” https://interactioninstitute.org/energy-system-science-for-network-weavers-a-summary/ “Energy System Practice for Long-Term Human Thriving” https://interactioninstitute.org/energy-systems-practice-esp-for-long-term-human-thriving/ “At the Heart of Regeneration is the Heart (and Gut)” https://interactioninstitute.org/at-the-heart-of-regeneration-is-the-heart-and-gut/   Food Solutions New England (the consulting work I have been doing for over 10 years with about 1/3 of my time): https://interactioninstitute.org/network-evolution-a-second-decade-brings-more-diversity-intricacy-and-robustness/ https://interactioninstitute.org/care-trust-truth-and-belonging-themes-from-a-network-leadership-institute-re-launch/ Interaction Institute for Social Change (my main employer the past 18 years): https://interactioninstitute.org/    Check out these past podcast interviews with Curtis: “How Networks [Can] Make the World Better” https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/getting-smart-podcast-how-networks-make-the-world-better/  “Amplifying Root Systems” https://soundcloud.com/user-684808838/s1e9-amplifying-root-systems-with-curtis-ogden  “Life when lived at its best is a journey of learning throughout” https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/flourishingeducation/episodes/Episode-161---Life-when-lived-at-its-best-is-a-journey-of-learning-throughout-with-Curtis-Ogden-e1p52st “Creating a Bigger WE” - https://intrepidednews.com/curtis-ogden-cre