I first encountered Mel Geltch after receiving an invitation to join a federally funded leadership program for bushfire impacted communities, following the Australian 'Black Summer' of 2019/20. From the prose in that invitation, I sensed I was encountering a fellow in the work, and as I responded to the expression of interest for that program, I also wrote to Mel and expressed that sense, and that I wondered whether we'd find ourselves weaving together beyond the duration of that program. That inception moment was the genesis of two threads which have great meaning for me - the beginning of my journey as a practitioner of the Art of Hosting and Harvesting Conversations that Matter, and my unfolding and ever deepening friendship with Mel. Mel is a steward of 'The Art of Hosting', co-Founder of Campfire Co-op and colleague and collaborator with our previous episodes' guest, Samantha Slade. This conversation covers several of the integral frameworks found within the patterns, processes and practices of 'The Art of Hosting', as well as some contemporary dialogue on the The First Nations' Voice to Parliament referendum, and the role of such frameworks in holding space for and connecting with ourselves, and our innate capacity to work in life affirming ways. Mel and I hope you'll enjoy this discussion, and potentially be curious to explore this work more deeply yourself. Links below to Mel, Campfire Co-op and upcoming opportunities to get involved in Going Horizontal training co-hosted by Mel & Campfire in November 2024. Connect with Mel on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/melgeltch/ Check out Campfire Coop's website - https://www.campfire.coop/ Explore Going Horizontal in Australia - https://www.campfire.coop/gohocanberra23 Connect with Tim on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timcollings/ Join and connect with the Better World Leaders community on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/better-world-leaders