In this episode, Dennis and I and discusses his transition to Microsoft, the impact of developer productivity, and the evolution of the architect's role in tech. Tune in for insights on creating value in cloud-native technology and navigating the balance between autonomy and structured platform engineering. Connect with Dennis van de Laar: https://linkedin.com/in/dennis-van-de-laar-0374b4 References: Pace-layered Application Strategy - https://www.gartner.com/en/information-technology/glossary/pace-layered-application-strategy  Jim Wilt - Five Pillars of IT Architecture - https://iasaglobal.org/Services/Public/TOPICS/Iasa_Five_Pillars_Presentation.aspx Full episode on YouTube ▶️ https://youtu.be/UumRYf4WVsk Beyond Coding Podcast with ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠🎙Patrick Akil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Powered by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Xebia⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! OUTLINE 00:00:00 - Intro 00:00:26 - Dennis worked with JP (Xebia NL MD) 00:01:03 - Executive Briefing Center 00:01:43 - How Dennis ended up at Microsoft 00:04:01 - Joining a team focussed on Cloud Native Technology 00:06:22 - Creating win-wins 00:08:36 - Focus on adding value 00:11:02 - Gartner's Pace-Layered Application Strategy 00:14:15 - Low code and innovation 00:17:15 - Low code has a bad rep 00:18:21 - Patrick's experience with GenAI 00:19:52 - The value of Microsoft Copilot 00:22:16 - Common customer productivity challenges 00:25:07 - Exploring Platform Engineering 00:26:41 - Developer Productivity linked to Innovation 00:28:25 - Losing autonomy with Platform Engineering 00:30:01 - Focus on Tech, People and Process 00:31:28 - Sharing experiences on way of working 00:33:42 - Letting go of your ideas 00:34:30 - The role of an architect is evolving 00:36:38 - Jim Wilt and human dynamics 00:38:57 - When to push and pull 00:41:51 - The best ideas don't always win 00:44:09 - Include people along your journey 00:45:36 - Final thoughts